Review of b*Bounce: Stay away ... far away

PostSep 7th, 2006 | Comments (15)
Success.com sends out five to ten thousand newsletter emails a day, and I'm essentially the "webmaster" for the site, so I get all the bounced emails. I've been dealing with it for a long time, but I finally decided a couple weeks ago that I had had enough.

The site doesn't use a mailing list program or service because I wanted there to be a tight connection between the user's customer record and their newsletters subscriptions. So the newsletter subscription functionality on the site is all custom built. (And why should Success.com have to pay to send out emails when it has its own dedicated server that can do it for free?) The main drawback of this method, however, is that there isn't an easy way to handle email bounces.

There's a decent OS X app called eMail Bounce Handler that logs into a POP box and tallies up all the bounced emails, but it's pretty basic and hasn't been updated in almost a year.

So I went looking for a website that could handle my bounces for me. That's when I came across b*Bounce. The website is http://bbounce.com/. I refuse to link to them directly out of principle.

I signed up for their lowest tier, $9.95/month, just to test things out. I payed via PayPal, and then found out *after* I sent payment that the account wouldn't be created automatically - it had to be set up manually by someone. So I waited...and waited. Hours went by with no account and not even an email saying "thanks for your payment, your account will be set up soon." So I emailed them, and did not hear back.

After a couple days, I filed a PayPal fraud claim, and I still never heard back from them. Finally, today, PayPal ruled in my favor and gave me my $10 back.

So I guess this whole post was a long-winded way of saying: STAY AWAY FROM B*BOUNCE!

Comments

Jamie GroveSep 9, 2006
So, did you find a bounce manager you liked or are you going to write one? ;)
Jamie TibbettsSep 9, 2006
I have not found one. And I've certainly been giving some thought to doing one myself. ;) I just don't know if there are enough people like me out there to justify developing it.
Jamie GroveSep 10, 2006
Well, apparently not enough for bbounce to answer their own mail...
paulDec 27, 2006
I used bbounce's subscription service and it works very nicely. We are running a list of 2200+ emails and it has always kept it very clean. It even has Instant Bounce Notification in which upon detecting a bounced email it will run a script on your site so you can custon handle it. I Just had a new client sign up and I am a little worried that the system is no longer automated. I have already wrote them a few emails asking that my new account be setup quickly. Have patience bbounce does rock. I actually might buy their Server based product for more control over my bounce backs. You sound alot like, me. As I prefer to build my own custom APP to run my client's maillist rather than use third parties. I am blasting off a list of 24,000 emails tonight, Their product is worth it!
JeremyFeb 17, 2007
I had the same problem with bBounce. They are completely unresponsive to any kind of communication, phone, email, etc. I made the mistake of buying their upgrade for $149 (2 years ago I bought the basic version) and never received the upgrade key.

Either the owner died and nobody is running bBounce, or they're fraudsters.
Angelo VasquezMay 22, 2007
Same things has happened to me, I paid them twice, for the subscription service, last week. And have yet to receive any emails from them. I have written over a dozen emails, and no response. This guys is just stealing peoples money.
Did you ever find a suitable solution?

b*Bounce looks like exactly what we need for bounce management software but we need a reliable service, as you do too! I can't believe there isn't something out there to manage email bounces.
Jamie TibbettsMay 29, 2007
I just went back to learning to deal with spam. It has been made easier with the help of Spam Sieve (Mac only), however.
J.K. RudeenSep 19, 2007
I have to agree with the result of the review to stay away from bBounce. Why? Because I strongly believe they are no longer in business. But the site and mail servers are running as-is, to keep whatever incoming money flow they still have.

My company was using bBounce Subscription for at least a year, things were going great, I loved it! Then it just stopped working. I emailed them weekly and never got a response. I decided to search for a phone number, which they do not provide at all. I eventually found one from the info PayPal had on them. When I called it, it was a personal voice mail for some man with a foreign accent.

I also noticed that the copyright on their website was dated 2005, which is one of many signs that the site has gone stagnant. I also found an official bBounce blog, but the latest post was Sept. 2006.

b*Bounce is owned by The Whitaker Firm, which was founded by Ryan Whitaker. In case if anyone wants to further search for any real contact info.
RBOct 13, 2007
We bought their server back in 10/2006 and it works great.

Ordered the unlimited upgrade on 9/20/07 and still haven't received the key.

In dispute now with Paypal to get our money back but would rather have the upgrade key. B*bounce server is a good product and it has worked well over the last year.

I hope Ryan is still alive. Maybe someone should put out a missing persons report. Anyone in Oklahoma?

c/o The Whitaker Firm, LLC
PO BOX 721608
Oklahoma City, OK 73172-1608
BobOct 31, 2007
Check out www.boogietools.com. b*Bounce is a rip off of their products. BoogieTools is a real company where you can call and actually get someone on the telephone.
Vernon BlackmoreDec 21, 2007
We've used BBounce server (not subscription) for quite a while, and it was a good piece of software. We're frustrated that it is no longer being developed. Maybe they have just run out of steam/cash/enthusiasm. But http://www.boogietools.com/ is the answer.
Robert FrewJan 24, 2008
I would be interested in your script if you decide to build one as I am sure many others would be as well. Let us know!
Craig Van SantJun 9, 2008
I used bbounce subscription for a while and now nothing seems to work. It's too bad cuase it was a good solution at a fair price. While searching for an alternative I've come across BoogieBounce and this bit of code that seems suprisingly similar to bbounce.

http://maxwell.itb.ac.id/pub/sourceforge/b/bm/bmh/
Ryan TaylorNov 3, 2008
Anyone have a status on this? I purchased BBounce Server about 2 years ago and it has worked perfect. I switched to a new server and no longer have the installers only to find that the website is no longer there. I've emailed their support address but received no reply, tempted to write a letter to Ryan Whitaker @

WHITAKER RYAN
12001 DALTON DR
OKLAHOMA CITY, OK 73162

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